tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293100068373105830.post2227588132989530138..comments2024-03-29T03:02:00.140-07:00Comments on The Amateur Planner: Take the (train/bus/car) to the ballgameArihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06058285362842737187noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293100068373105830.post-71362417611465191762013-12-21T14:44:08.228-08:002013-12-21T14:44:08.228-08:00Very true re: the land value of ballparks. There a...Very true re: the land value of ballparks. There are sort of four eras of ballparks. The first was pre-bandbox, when parks sat 12k or so in wooden stands. The second were the bandboxes. Built out at the same time as residential neighborhoods along streetcar (or sometimes subway) lines and in many cases built right in the middle of residential neighborhoods (e.g. Shibe, Sportsman's, Ebbets, Tiger). Then there were the cookie cutter era, although some of these were set down in downtowns. And since then, the retro movement, especially with downtown ballparks.<br /><br />What's interesting about Fenway is that the garages are going the way of the Dodo. I was always intrigued growing up by the myriad garages and parking lots around Fenway—within a mile of the Prudential and Longwood. For a while, I think that there was more value in these lots as low-rise parking facilities or lots, especially given that supply and demand would allow for high amounts of cash per year. However, it seems that as housing prices have risen, the price of these parcels as residential properties (certainly a "better and higher use") has changed the equation and much of the area is being redeveloped. This is certainly a good thing, although it might squeeze parking rates higher at existing lots.<br /><br />A final note: Fenway didn't have below-grade transit nearby until 1932, when the subway was extended beyond Kenmore to the Beacon and Commonwealth portals.Arihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06058285362842737187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293100068373105830.post-62962588165635835922013-12-21T13:59:07.378-08:002013-12-21T13:59:07.378-08:00Ballparks were low-value, sprawly uses of land, so...Ballparks were low-value, sprawly uses of land, so naturally they were placed on what was the edges of the urbanized area at the time, wherever was cheap. The city grew up around them, often displacing the park eventually.<br /><br />Nice post though! I've been thinking about doing something related for a while: comparing the walkability of various ballpark neighborhoods. For example, Fenway, while surrounded by garages, comes out much more favorably than say, Dodger Stadium, which looks like it was built in a lunar crater.<br />Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02027332620204904993noreply@blogger.com